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Anand Jivano: Trust
Email: anand_jivano@yahoo.com
Date: Feb 16, 2003, 23:27
Trust... simple divine loving trust... action from that deep center... not reactionary but a heartfelt response of the inner being.
You know what I'm talking about, bro.
Love,
Jivano

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pradhira: n: worldwide conflict - inside
Email: mapradhira@aol.com
Date: Feb 17, 2003, 9:56
Yes, yes, yes! Nice pictures too.

love (wanna deal?)

pradhira



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Prem X Venu: Even the moustache reminds of Hitler.
Email: Premxvenu@yahoo.co.in
Date: Jul 29, 2003, 17:45

From n0by @

Sannyasnews.com

One of his numerous sites where he tries to falsificate history, relating to Osho, but is too demented to figure out that it will never work. It’s his life work. But seeing the fact that the IC in Pune also does the same. It looks to him like he’s a great shot. They are as pitiful as this nasty Gestapo volunteer is. A simple hard working German who never accepted that his father was one of the numerous German soldiers during the Second World War that were so-called COMMANDED to “round up Jews for the gas chambers”.


Hunting Osho's Killers

I often wonder where the killers of Osho and their fellow conspirators are now.

Are they living on some nice sunny island? Or like Judas Iscariot have they committed suicide?

Something tells me that they are still around - ordinary men and women - same as they ever were.

It was the same with the Nazi concentration camp butchers who pulled gold fillings from their hapless Jewish victims, now working in Beth Shalom hospital as dentists filling cavities with mercury amalgam - and poisoning themselves in the process.

But while the ordinary German soldier was commanded to round up Jews for the gas chambers, the killers of Osho did it of their own free choice.

The obvious reason was the money. The vultures disrespectfully snapped up Osho's assets immediately after his death causing irreparable damage. Property, buildings, book rights, momentos, signatures, intellectual
property and copyrights - everything and anything. It was not because of devotional love that they took these things but devotion to money.

Now the clever ones were the lawyers they got rich without lifting a finger - just by pushing a pen. The 'grunts', the foot soldiers, which did most of the hands-on dirty work probably didn't get rich. They either went on to serve the new Mafia head, got expelled or worse.

I don't think anyone person would have been able to control the whole ashram. It was a group of co-conspirators. How many people does it take to spy, bug, poison, smuggle guns, attack, count the money, provide security?

The people who killed Osho did not love him though they still pretend that they do in the same way that a politician or business man will say anything to get and control power and money.

Like priests they will quote Osho's words, but the skilful listeners will notice that their words are hollow and ring not true.

In tracking Osho's killers we have to work from the point of death backwards and figure out what had to be involved. It's like plotting the bullets that struck JFK, figuring what sort of weapon could do that and where it had to be located.

As Simon Wiesenthal has shown: it is still possible to find Nazi war criminals even in old age. I believe that it is possible to track down those responsible for Osho's death.

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This message arrived yesterday from an anonymous author.

This sannyasnews-chatboard is one of the last boards to publish free. Letters like this - without interfering of the adminstrator:

Result: this board has been hacked. These hackers have destroyed lots of old subjects!

Other communication-channels like the egroups from yahoo

sannyas-list

osho-beyond-bondage

don't flow free anymore.

The scissors in sannyas-heads hinder people to read/write here. Means:


BHAGWAN IS DEAD! CENTERS CLOSE! SANNYAS SUCKS! SATSANG SELLERS SPEED UP!




From Prem X Venu

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Prem X Venu: Reply to n0by's article about hunting Osho's killers.
Email: premxvenu@yahoo.co.in
Date: Jul 29, 2003, 17:59
From Prem X Venu

to n0body,

I guess times have cleared and the new season is open to catch those poor “soldiers” that just were “commanded to round up Jews for the gas chambers”. The Osho-Beyond-Bondage at Yahoo chat groups has been renamed as obb-sannyas and even the post that had disappeared for months has reappeared, which made me stumble across your smart-ass letter (msg. 11299) which I never got to read, as you smart-ass fanatics took it off the air. Was it maybe written long afterwards, as you had seemed to me a little tired and unable to keep your “cool” that night. I guess that’s the advantage of been Judge and Executioner in the same time.

The “hackers”, character builders and article falsifiers denounce other as the wrong party. The thief comes back to the scene of the crime just in time so that nobody would suspect that he is the thief and even adds to the conspiracy by, inventing others as the thief. -Invention on invention. Fabrication on fabrication. Cunning on cunningness. - The “righteous” conspiracy conspirators.

All this for a higher motive, to save those poor “soldiers” who just obeyed orders.

I always was trying to figure out what kind of fanaticism drove you. On the one hand you seemed like a humorous character, but on the other hand whenever a certain point was reached a cruelty and meanness was very apparent in total contradiction with the humorous part. It was like huge twists 360 degrees back and forth, as smooth as your Mother’s breasts should have been but probably were not. It didn’t make much sense.

Besides I was to busy figuring out the maze of characters you have build, and the fabrication of articles and history relating to Osho, a good way of keeping the attention away from your Holiness, Herr n0b0dy.
Forgive me for being naďve. It doesn’t always pay off.

But suddenly it struck out of the blue. Well, not completely. I always suspected you worked for some kind of anti -fascism organisation, or at least volunteered to one, but even that didn’t make much sense to me, something was missing. Simon Wiesenthal was missing! That’s it. I got it. Eureka!
You had to be acting on your own terms, and it was not the usual anti-fascism organisation. More like a club of friends united by a deep hate to Osho and sannyasins and whatnot, in which all means were permissible to destroy the enemy.

Now you seemed to have burned through completely. Of all names in the recent history YOU, the anonymous author, (your style is so easily recognisable) choose Simon Wiesenthal. So that’s it then? Was it so easy? You’re simply a nutcase.

Simon Wiesenthal did bring a bunch of old nazi’s down, then back to Israel, DEAD OR ALIVE, and alive they were hanged, as trophies they were dead.
Seems like a noble cause (especially shortly after the Second World War), were it not that today’s psychologists include motivation and the fact that to defeat your enemy you must become just as he is.

Revenge was his motivation and he became as nasty in his techniques as the nazi’s were, justified by his higher motives, to fight fascism and not let those nazi criminals escape. He became impopular in the mid-seventies, because after a while people became suspicious of his motivation, hidden by his higher motives. People came to see it as plain revenge; not that he DID have history to back him up!

Now YOU have turned round the ball game and shifted your great parallels of history to the IC, who are to you the nazi’s of nastiest, the superior fascist who threw you out of the ranch, and to the “soldiers” under them and under Osho in the past, who are to you “the ordinary German soldiers” of WW2, “commanded to round up Jews for the gas chambers. Make me laugh again: just followed orders! One of my grandfathers was in the Résistance while the other joined the Free French Forces and fought alongside the Americans to deliver Montenegro, It

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Prem X venu: Reply to N0by's article about hunting Osho's killers
Email: premxvenu@yahoo.co.in
Date: Jul 29, 2003, 18:06
Now YOU have turned round the ball game and shifted your great parallels of history to the IC, who are to you the nazi’s of nastiest, the superior fascist who threw you out of the ranch, and to the “soldiers” under them and under Osho in the past, who are to you “the ordinary German soldiers” of WW2, “commanded to round up Jews for the gas chambers. Make me laugh again: just followed orders! One of my grandfathers was in the Résistance while the other joined the Free French Forces and fought alongside the Americans to deliver Montenegro, Italy and the côte d’ Azur of your compatriots. They told me everything about following orders and who followed them! – And about Americans.

I almost died of laughter when I read that was coming from your pen. It’s understandable, but that doesn’t make you the more right. They say history repeats itself. Hihihihihi!

You should be happy they threw you out of Rajneeshpuram. I was when they threw me out of Rajneesh School. Roaming the streets is much more fun than school. Or do you regret not having been able to be “commanded” just as those WW2 soldiers? Are you crazy or what?

I knew you were wrong, your methods proofed it. Publishing under false credentials, inventing and making a thousand false articles and characters for the higher motive, to save those poor “soldiers” who followed orders (hahahaha!). You deny truths when they are pointed at you and even add your cunning on top of it. “Hackers” have attacked this site blablabla. At least have the courtesy of diffusing your own idea’s, for your conspiracies.

So, all means are permissible, just as Simon Wiesenthal used- DEAD OR ALIVE. You don’t have to account for anything:
‘Cos Osho, he was just as bad as the Fuerher and his IC and CO are just like “Hitler’s sannyasins”.

And the ones you concentrate on are the soldiers who were “COMMANDED to round up Jews for the gas chambers”, who just followed orders. Let me laugh again. Only Germans say these kinds of things.

Not only you got it twice wrong -Osho and World War 2 are as far away apart as Buddha and Hitler ever had the chance to meet. The IC (as much as I despise those motherfucking sons of Bitches) have nothing to do with “ Hitler’s sannyasins”, as you like to call Hitler’s generals.
; Simon Wiesenthal had at least history to stand on and didn’t need to fabricate or falsificate any as you do.

You’re the fanatic n0by, and you’re on your own. Quite a cunning one too.

Be a nazi unto yourself, just for the others sake or even n0b0dy, Dear!

Or for humanity’s sake, just be a German male chauvinistic pig that you are, not following orders.

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Prem X Venu

Ps: Yeah, SHOOT! Nazi’s only understand the barrel of a gun. Oh? Is that your wife? Uuuuurgh give me the paper basket to vomit in, and is that YOU! That’s some ugly face. Just as demented as your Nazi predecessors. You’re some dangerous motherfucker. I hope history doesn’t repeat itself. Even Hitler would have pity on you. You’re an insult to every German alive. Greetings from my girlfriend, as well.


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